Darn Tough often make it difficult to compare models, or at the least their attempt to do so is often vague, descriptions can be inconsistent with what you receive. These are similar to the camo OTC socks they offered in 2020-2021 and are similar in fit and feel. They do not have shin padding (something I was glad to find) but have enough padding around the foot for backpacking shoes, but not overly thick like hunter's socks. They hold tight enough and do not sag, but are generous enough to fit comfortably over larger calves.